fri, oct 29, 2010

 DeadLifting on unstable surfaces for performance/health?

Weekend Warrior Series

speed strength:
A1. back squat with chains @ 30X2; 3 x 5; rest 90 sec
A2. power snatch @ 13X0; 3 x 5; rest 90 sec
B. front squat @ 30X0; 3,3,3 - 80%; rest 1 min
C1. GHD Sit Ups @ 1010; 15 unbroken; rest 10 sec
C2. GHD extensions @ 1010; 15 unbroken; rest 10 sec
C3. CTB chin ups - 15 unbroken; rest 90 sec x 3

rest 6+ hours

anaerobic alactic power:
Hang Power Clean - 3 heavy
rest 0 sec
Row 100 m @ 100% effort
rest 3 min
10 sets total; rest 10 min b/t sets 5 and 6

post loads and notes to comments
test on saturday

52 comments:

  1. Coach, if we dont have chains how should we achieve the same stimulus, lighter weight and focus on speed, less reps, ect? Thanks

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  2. Would Box Squats be good? Trying to focus on speed on the way up?

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  3. A1: 80kg, no chains
    A2: 54 kg
    B: 80 kg
    C1, C2, C3: All UB

    knee getting better so nearly there again!

    Soren

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  4. joey, nothing is the same stimulus but bands are a good sub if you can do it
    michael, no, but a full squat from high bar @ lower loads and faster concentric will be a good idea if no implements available
    as with bands or chains the end range of the concentric becomes more "challenging" and requires a nice stimulus for movement of the weight which carries over nicely in this case to opening hips more appropriately for power snatch which is what the exericse is for...not to lift heavier loads on the back squat

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  5. A1. 225# + 32.5# chains, 235 + 65, 255 + 65, 260 + 65.
    A2. 115#, 135, 145, 160 (slight press on 3rd), 165x2
    B. 240 all sets
    C's all unbroken

    Notes: Misread wod, did 5 reps for first 3 sets then 3 reps last 2 on A1 and A2. Snatch seemed a little heavy today, was able to do 165x3 on a test day about a month back pretty easilly. 160# felt heavy today.

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  6. Thanks coach!

    One last question for anyone, I read the reps for A1, A2 as 3 sets of 5 reps, is that correct? Thanks

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  7. m.28.6'4''.225lbs

    Yesterday, did 4 sets of Part II from Tuesday:
    CJ:10,11,11,10
    BJ:21,18,19,17
    KBS:12,13,13,13
    Burpees:9,9,8,9

    Very tough. Not sure how rounds 5+6would've gone, but cut short b/c of time and b.c it was supposed to be a rest day.

    Today: tried to do a hybrid. I read A1 and A2 as 5 sets of 3, so I did 3 sets of 3 instead and then the rest of Part I as rx'd. Also, I didn't have any bands or chains, so I did it with lower weight and tried to up the speed on the way up.
    A1. 275, 285, 295
    A2. 176. 176, 186 (F on #3)
    B. 235 for all three
    C1, C2, C3--UB; slow on CTB, but UB

    Rest 6 mins
    Part II--six sets
    HPC-186, 198, 208, 220, 220, 230
    Row--18 secs for all but fourth set, which was 19 secs.

    Notes: Felt pretty good overall, except I still fall into an old bad habit of landing really wide when weight gets heavy in clean and snatch. Any advice would be appreciated.

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  8. 1 set situp, 1 set back extension, 3 sets CTB? Am I reading that correctly?

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  9. A1. (w/40lb of chains)245,265,285,315,320x4
    A2. 135,140,155,160,165x3
    B. 255x3x3
    C's unbrokenx3

    screwed up the set and reps on the A's.

    Joey- i'd say 5sets of 3reps.

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  10. So now I have to throw out my Bosu ball?!?!

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  11. joey, that's 3 reps per set for 5 sets of each of A1/A2, i should've been more specific
    for last 3 , they are c1,c2,c3, rest x 3

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  12. Not to beat a dead horse here, but I have lots of chain and I think I can't beat any price out there. When Coach recommended chain, I found a great deal on a 200' roll of 1/2" link galvanized. Shipping is the obvious cost but I should be able to make it worth while.

    My wife is tired of having this much chain piled in the garage!

    Shoot me an email if you want to see some pics. pcklein@yahoo.com

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  13. Looking at the numbers on the chain I have, I can sell one set for $50 + shipping. One set is aprrox. 50 lbs (25lbs/ side) and would cost about $20-25 shipping in the U.S.

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  14. Interesting abstract re - deadlift however they only measured paraspinal activity that does not give even close to the entire picture of what is active during the deadlift - in fact should they not have measured glut or hamstrings instead? Plus what about core stabilizers is that not the supposed purpose of using a bosu to enlist more core activity during an exercise - they did not measure any of that so I am not so sure there conclusion is really very valid - just my 2 cents

    Also is there a specific way the chains are supposed to be put on the bar, is there a video or something describing this??

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  15. A1. Used med bands: 255, 275, 285, 295, 305x2
    A2. 165, 175, 185; 195, 205x3

    B. 285, 305, 325x2

    C1, C2, C3: all complete

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  16. A1. 315x3, 275x3 x 4 sets
    A2. 135x3 all sets
    B. 260x3 all sets
    C1/C2/C3 - Done all UB.

    Lower back has been an issue lately, but felt better this morning, so I started heavier on the back squats. After the first set, I had to drop it back down.

    Also I took no rest b/t back squat and the power snatch to save some time.

    Finally went to a chiropractor today and had some acupuncture done and some other things, hope this gets things back to normal.

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  17. Only time for part 1 today:

    A1. with 32kg chains (16kg a side): 70kg, 80kg, 90kg, 90kg, 90kg
    A2. 50kg, 55kg, 60kg, 1x62.5kg, 60kg

    B. 80kg, 85kg, 85kg

    No pullups on C, but the rest I did. First time with chains. Fun. I think it made me open hips aggressively on last bit of squat, as intended if I understood it right.

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  18. Changed up my usual pull strength routine a bit today, and finished with Part C:

    A. Pull-ups, strict supinated CTB, 5 x 5 w/light band anchored from waist to floor; 3:00 rest
    B. Ring dips, 5 x 5 @ 60 @ 2020; 3:00 rest
    C1. UB @ tempo
    C2. UB @ tempo
    C3. unbroken butterfly

    Also threw in one muscle-up with a band anchored from waist to floor. Hoping to be cleared Monday morning to begin weighting squats - it's been 12 weeks since surgery. Training is going well, though, and I've set PRs in my press, and weighted PUs, and am confident my neck is at a PR next time I test it.

    Itching to get back in it with everyone - it's tough watching Arjuna and Pete kill it every day...

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  19. And by "neck", of course, I mean bench press...

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  20. Part 1
    A1. Subbed strong bands (175# total at top): 185/225/265/295/315
    A2. 115/125/135/145/155(f-3)
    B. 245 x 3
    C1, C2, C3. Ub all

    Brandon

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  21. Part 1:(thought the workout was 3 sets of 5)
    A1) 225# (went lighter and focused on speed of the hips)
    A2) 115#,125#,135# x 5 each

    B) 225#
    C) All unbroken and on tempo

    Part 2 w/ 205#:
    1-10: :38,:45, :37, :38, :36, :37, :36, :37, :35, :34

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  23. A1. 125,135,155,165,175 + 40 lbs of chains per set.
    A2. 95,105,115,120,125(2)
    B. 155 for 3 sets
    C1. 15,15,15 unbroken
    C2. 15,15,15 unbroken
    C3. 9,9,7 unbroken

    Skipping part 2 today as am doing Grace tomorrow as part of the Barbells for Boobs fundraiser (http://barbellsforboobs.com/).

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  24. Thanks for all the congrats on thursday dawgs.

    A1. 225,235,245,255,265(2) + 40lbs of chain per set.

    A2. 115,125,130,135,135

    B. skipped front squats for time constraints

    C all unbroken and easy.

    skipping Part 2 as we are doing amazing grace at our gym tomorrow. we got 15 friends, family and clients to join which is a pretty good number for our small area.

    got a 3rd cortisone shot in my heel today to hopefully flush out the last of the pain from pf.

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  25. Part 1
    A1. 225, 225, 245, 245, 245 (no chains so was very explosive with as much of a jump as possible at top, which wasn't much. and did 5 x 5 b/c Did not want to do front squats due to knee tendinitis)
    A2. 135, 135, 145, 155, 155
    Skipped B
    C1-3 all unbroken and easy

    Part 2 after 2 hours rest
    A1. 185, 185, 185, 195, 205 for the rest of the sets
    A2. all in 18 seconds

    Felt good today, knee is definitely getting better!

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  26. Modified for time today:
    8 sets with 90 sec rest between:
    Hang Power Clean then Row 100 m
    (135×2, 145×2, 155×2, 165×2; rows 15-16.9 sec)
    Then did "C" from part 1 as rx'd.

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  27. Speed Strength;
    A1: 100kgx3/110kgx3x2/120kgx3x2 +20kg chains for all sets
    A2: 65kgx3x5
    B: 103kgx3x3 80% of 3RM
    C1: All sets unbroken; both hands to the floor.
    C2: All sets unbroken
    C3: All sets unbroken; felt heavy on sets 1&2
    20 min rest
    Anaerobic Alactic Power:
    3 rep HPC: 85kgx3x5/90kgx3x5
    Row times: Times varied from 17.0 sec - 17.7 sec

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  28. 6hr rest
    Part 2:
    HPC's: 225,230,235x3x8sets
    Rows: :16 - :16.4

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  29. Part 2: 225#x7 sets and 230# for last set.

    Rows: All 18 seconds.

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  30. A1. 205,225,245,265,285 plus what ever 2 14ft long log chains weigh
    A2. 155,155,165,175,185
    B. 235 all sets
    C's all unbroke

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  31. Hybrid part 1 and 2 (cut A1 and A2 down to 4 sets of three each, and cut part 2 to 5 rounds)

    A1. 185, 205, 205, 225 (all of which had 50# suspended from chains)
    A2. 50, 50, 60, 60kg
    B. 185 x 3 x 3
    All c's unbroken and felt good

    Part 2, used 60kg for HPC (not too tough, shoulda raised, and 19 seconds for each row

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  32. A1 - 135,165,185,205,215, all plus ~65lbs of chains
    A2 - 115x3x5

    B - 185x3x3

    C - done, all unbroken

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  33. Part 1
    A1. All sets @ 220# with bands - focusing on explosive power
    A2. All sets @ 125#
    B. 195#
    Cs. Unbroken

    Part 2
    All hpc done at 175#...best row was in 9th round - 17.4 sec.

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  34. part 1
    a1. medium bands 185, 205, 225, 245x2, 245
    a2. L-arm DB power snatch 90#x3x5
    b. 195
    c1. ub
    c2. ub (harder than expected)
    c3. ub, ub, 8+7(grip)

    part2
    no hpc due to fractured right finger so i did 100m row/2:30 rest x10
    16.1, 16.2, 16.1, 16.3, 16.7, 16.6, 16.6, 16.9, 16.5

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  35. for the squat w/ chains/bands, should we be worried about bar speed on the concentric or just interpret the "X" as usual ie. move bar afap?

    thanks.

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  36. A.M.

    No chains yet but have next 3 days off to get some purchased.

    A1: 250#*3, 260*2
    A2: 145#*3, 150*3

    B: 205#*3

    C1: unbroken
    C2: unbroken
    C3: unbroken- really tough today

    Tempo felt great on C1 & C2: Really felt work on core area with full extension of both arms overhead. Went lighter on A1: amd B from last time. Wanted to make sure tempo was strict and was not cheating myself.

    P.M.

    1-5
    175#,185,195,195,195
    Rows- 16-17secs

    5-10
    200#,200,200,200,205
    Rows- 16.5-17.5secs

    Had to feel around for perfect weight on HPC's, Hands are ripped and tough to hold onto bar. Rows were explosive and felt great. Fell off seat a few times and had to finish row sitting on steel.

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  37. Part 1:

    A1-w/chains(40#)kgs-100,105,108,110,113

    A2-kgs 72,74,76,80,82

    B-up the weight to 100kgs x sets

    Three C's-Completed

    Part 2:

    Used 105kgs x 10 sets

    *made the investment and bought chains. First time using them, way better than bands. Sick workouts OPT- one more week till Taranis Winter Challenge

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  38. part 1: 7AM
    A1. 255/255/275/275/290
    A2. 145/165/165/175/180
    B. 210/215/220
    C1 - C3 all UB

    part 2: 130PM
    185/195/205/205/205
    rest 10 min
    205/210/210/215/220

    took a while to get warmed up today, felt sluggish for part 2, no pop on rower

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  39. PART 1
    A1.235/240/245/250(2),250(2) w/ 40lbs chains
    A2.135/145/145/150/155(1)
    B.230 all sets
    C1/C2/C3 all unbroken

    PART 2
    RD1-5 185/185/190/195/195
    RD6-10 200/200/205/205/210

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  40. did a lot of subbing 2day... figured I'd post anyway...

    A1- front squat @ tempo- 5 sets of 3 @ 205
    A2- power snatch @ tempo- 135/ 155/ 165/ 165/ 165
    B- snatch balance- 135 x5 x3sets, 185 x3 x2sets
    C- OHS 191 x17 (bw 187... huge PR!)
    D1- clapping pullups- bw x10, 10lb x10, 25lb x6, 25lb x5
    D2- clapping pushups (behind lumbar)- x10, 4 sets
    E1- HBBS A2G @30x2- 5,5,5- 225/ 245/ 275
    E2- ghd su- 15 x 3 sets
    E3- ghd ext- 15 x 3 sets
    F- Strict Weighted Ring MU- worked up 2 25lb x3 (pr... never tried a weighted MU b4 and was happy 2 string 2gether 3 with 25lbs)

    15min rest

    subbed SDLHP 135 x10 for row
    HPC 235 x3, 4 sets... ran out of time b4 tge gym closed, but the kettle was hot, good pop, this wt felt ez, which is gd 4 me bc I'm no Rory...
    each set ~27 sec

    ~gm2

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  41. 39/6'2"/199

    A1: 100/110/120/130/140kg + 40# chain. All 3's. Last round was uber difficult.
    A2: 70/80/82.5/82.5/82.5kg. All 3's
    B: 120/120/120kg. All 3's. Tough!
    C: First 2 rounds unbroken. Last round of pullups broken. Really broken!

    15 min rest

    x10 100m rows. 2 min rest between pulls
    Times: All high :15's or low :16's

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  42. Part 2
    185/195/205x8
    Rows: 17.8 first one, then 16.6-17.1 for the rest

    Should have gone a bit heavier on the cleans, but didn't want form to go to crap. Rows felt better as I went along.
    Brandon

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  43. 2nd day back on opt.

    have not got the chains figured out so just did BS with adding weight every time.
    A1. 135, 155, 165, 170, 180
    A2. 65, 75, 85, 90, 95
    b. 135
    only got through 2sets of C's. had to coach. need to allow more time.

    while i've been away, my oly lifts have been suffering, hoping to make some improvement there.

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  44. Part 1. 6:30am
    A1. 215, 225, 230, 2/235, 2/235
    A2. 115, 120, 125, 2/125, 125
    B. 3 x 3/195
    C1, C2, C3 all UB
    Ghd situps where slow and not full ext.. because of some pain in lower back

    Part 2. 10:00pm
    165 x 3, 175 x 3, 180 x 4
    everything felt good and fast

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  45. A1. all 5 sets at 225 w/med bands
    A2. all 5 sets at 115 felt nice and fast starting to get a feel for "pulling myself under"

    B. all 3 sets at 195lb

    C1,C2,C3 all unbroken

    P2
    HPC
    1st set at 145
    3-5 at 155
    6-9 at 160
    10 at 165
    subbed the row with 100m sprint....felt good

    really enjoyed todays WOD

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  46. RE: the BOSU study.. Anyone who has a big deadlift could have told them that, and saved them the cost of an electromographitromaticatron.

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  47. Part 2

    185 - 17sec
    205 - 17.2
    205 - 17.3
    205 - 17.3
    215 - 17.4
    REST 10 min
    225 - 17.9
    225 - 17.4
    225 - 17.3
    225 - 17.3
    225 - 17.1

    I liked that one.

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  48. A1. 155, 165, 175, 185, 194 - chains were 17lbs each.
    A2. 75, 85, 95, 105, 105
    B. 155 for all
    C1. unbroken
    C2. unbroken
    C3. broken

    part 2
    105, 105, 115, 115, 125, 125, 125, 135, 135
    rows were all around 18 sec.

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  49. Speed Strength;
    A1: 80,90,100,100,100kg +20kg chains for all sets
    A2:40,45,50,50,50kgx3x5
    B: 90kgx3x3 80% of 3RM
    C1: All sets unbroken; alternating hands to floor.
    C2: All sets unbroken
    C3: All sets unbroken

    Anaerobic Alactic Power:
    3 rep HPC:
    70.70.75, 80, 82.5, 80, 80, 80, 75, 75
    time varied from 18-20 sec. Technique and fatigue was there in the last 4 sets

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  50. Completed on Sat 10-30

    Part 1

    A1. 205 all sets with approx 35-40# of chains and 15# DB on each side suspended at bottom portion of chains - made sure hips were moving quickly
    A2. 135, 145, 150, 150, 150
    B. 225 @ tempo (% of 3rm)
    C1. All UB
    C2. All UB
    C3. All UB

    Part 2 - after 2.5hrs rest

    185,195,200,200,200
    10m rest
    200, ran a call and got back approx 11pm
    Row not timed, but under 20s


    Notes: Gonna do a comp on Nov. 20th, so I'll fall back 1 week and hopefully peak on time. No test tomorrow, back on Mon. Sleep was not good on shift last night

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  51. F/31/130

    Only did the first part. Will do the second on Saturday.

    A1. Bar-65-75-85-95 (getting used to how this feels)
    A2. 75-75-75-75-75
    B. 75-80-85
    C1. All UB
    C2. All UB
    C3. UB-10/5-4/4/7

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